Radical feminist journalists have a tiresome habit of writing about sex work while refusing to ever talk to sex workers. When Louise Perry wrote an atrocious piece in the New Statesman about Only Fans, Ariel Anderssen (a BDSM model) was outraged. Perry refused to discuss the issue with either myself or Ariel, so instead Ariel and I decided to discuss Perry’s work. We also talked about BDSM and “feminists” that attack the choices of other women.